Renk - Siren Build Thread

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  1. Renkenstein

    Renkenstein Well-Known Member

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    Heretic's exactly right. I used 3 diameters of dowel rod and the final few frets are sandpaper wrapped around my smallest forstner bit's shaft. I started them all with a file at dead center, then opened them up with the dowels. Tried to sticky the sandpaper, but it didn't work too well. I ended up just making a dowel/sandpaper taco and going at it.
     
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    I think you're right.

    If the scallops went all the way across the board one could make a set of hardwood sanding blocks, but to do it like Renk has done in the pics above a small file or sanding dowel would be the only way.

    Yup, good old elbowgrease and a good eye can't be beat sometimes.
     
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    I think a riffler rasp might be a pretty decent tool to rough out the scallop, but you'd still need the sandpaper/dowel taco to finish.
     
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    I wouldn't mind using files like that at all! But out of a poor man's necessity, I used the dowels.

    The shape is actually a natural occurring parabola from the radius of the dowel intersecting the radius of the fretboard at whatever angle it was. Here is where I learned all that through experimentation.
    Post #320-323

    Just like most things in this hobby, it's easier than it looks! ;)
     
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    There's a taco even Sully wouldn't eat.
     
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    I don't think there is a taco that sully wouldn't eat.
     
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    Holy crap dude! I had no idea you started another guitar on the same thread, I thought you were still conversing about the first one. I started to scroll back through the pages and thought, "oh he took it apart to do the black sunburst thing on the top, but wait, I thought it had a maple fingerboard..." So I kept going back until I realized this is a whole new project. Sweet!

    I just got a duplicate carver in the mail today for carving necks and hopefully bridges. I also got a Grizzly spray booth delivered last week. Someday, you'll see some acoustics coming off the bench...
     
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    Yeah, this kinda morphed into a thread about the Siren model rather than a single build.
     
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    Here's something else I found that was pretty cool. After making the antler nut and slotting it to the correct depth, the action was perfect. A little low for my taste, even...but it feels so good that I can't bring myself to raise the string height.

    Here's the action at the 24th fret of my favorite Ibanez.


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    Here's the action of the Renk Siren. No buzz. She practically plays herself.


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    Congrats! That's a really nice guitar! I am really diggin the color scheme.
     
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    Thanks Knarbens! I've been going crazy on the sketch pad lately. It dawned on me that if I want to sell some builds, I'm going to need more than one design.

    After one week, I have 8 and counting. I can't stop drawing cool guitars. I'm stoked to get these blown up and get templates cut.
     
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    My designs always take time. It's a longer process of drawing the shape. I draw and work on it, tweak it, let it sit, look at it again, tweak it ...
     
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    Same here, it takes a long time for me to get something to a state that I'm happy with. Sketching is quick, but making it functionally right in my eyes is the tough bit.
     
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    Designing is my favorite part. I spend more time designing than I do building...mostly because it's a lot cheaper.
     
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    Same here ;)
     
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    I used to find drawing guitars extremely difficult...and I've got a lifetime of drawing experience ranging from comic book characters, to fantasy characters, to corporate logos. Guitars were always hella tough for me to draw, that or I was just so critical of myself that I wasn't happy with anything. That all changed when I started building guitars. I've almost filled a whole notebook with designs, and I'm going to have to narrow it down to a few. It's a good situation to be in.
     
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