Hand Tool Build #2 - ESP/LTD Style

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  1. poro78

    poro78 Well-Known Member

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    All right, I've just started my second build (Original thread @ MLP) couple of weeks ago and Jonny suggested that I'd put up a thread of that here also, so here goes.

    This is my second build and like the first one, I'm building it in an apartment and trying to keep the noise down - so hand tools only.
    I'm also studying at the moment and our family is having all kinds of extra expenses, so my resources are from time to time quite limited.

    This one will go to a good friend of mine, who's paying all the woods and parts. (And some tools. :fever:)
    Our deal is that I get materials to practice building and he gets a guitar that is built to his specifications by a beginner.

    Here's the plan.

    The guitar he uses at gigs is this ESP LTD.
    He'd like to have similar axe with some minor modifications, for example he'd like to have a non-tremolo bridge, set-in neck, different carve, 2 volumes & 1 tone and so on.

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    The horns are bit sharper, but the overall shape is traced from that guitar.
    (This is just a draft, the lines are bit shaky and distorted in this one.)

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    Specs:

    Body - Khaya with quilted maple top
    Neck - Khaya, rosewood fingerboard with 24 frets (9½" radius)
    Scale - 25½"

    Wood will be stained dark red, hardware will be black and inlays will be black MOP.

    Here's the blanks, still untouched.

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    Close-up of the top blanks.

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    Happened so far...

    The blanks were all a bit too thick so I had to resaw them a bit.
    First one I resawed with Ryoba saw.

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    Really slow, really frustrating, really stupid. Suits me. :D

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    For the next blank I made a frame saw, I read somewhere that it would be a fine tool for resawing... and it was.

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    The second blank took only half the time the first one did. :shock:

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    The I set up a shooting board and planed the edges of the blanks.

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    And glued them.

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    Quite happy with the seam.

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    Then I started to resaw the top blanks.
    The maple seems to be a little tougher opponent than khaya, disaster struck in the early stages of the fight.

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    So back to this...

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    And since the Ryoba's blade is so flexible, I didn't feel confident at all and had to make something to guide the blade.

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    Allrighty, then.
    That's what I've done so far... The maple is really giving me hard time, it somehow feels like it's not progressing at all. :mad:
    When I take a break and continue later it feels like the cut has closed up a little. :shock:
    Maybe I should leave it alone for a week and see if it regenerates completely. :hmm:
     
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    "So...um...yeah, I was doing the cut, but it healed..."

    Sounds perfectly plausible to me! :yesway:
     
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  3. Murkar

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    Awesome!

    That frame saw is interesting, I have to have a go at making one of those some day :)
     
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    I tell you, that wood is evil! Black magic to the root! :ohno:
    (So it's perfect material for making a guitar to a metal guitarist. :metal:)

    Actually I think there were 3 factors making it feel like it was healing: 1) Ryoba being so flexible that it bit into the wood here and there, 2) incredible amount of saw dust blocking the way, 3) the ends somehow pressed together a little as I cut deeper, making it harder to move the saw blade.

    That frame saw was quite useful, but made of weak scrap materials.
    Next one will be made from a much stronger wood and I'll have to get a saw blade with lower TPI, the ones I have are not so good for resawing. :hmm:

    But, got the task finished yesterday.
    Resawing khaya was nothing compared to maple, this piece took at least twice the time khaya did. :shock:

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    I'm not too happy of the quality of the cut, but I guess there's not too much damage.
    Nothing a little planing couldn't fix, I hope.

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    The other piece is couple millimeters thicker than the other because I had this megalomaniac fantasy of resawing both original blanks, having a just over 1cm top piece for this build and the thicker piece saved for future projects.
    I think I'll use these two pieces now and save the untouched blank for future use.
     
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    Looks alright given how you cut it! It'll plane out as you said...

    I can imagine your arms were sore after the maple lol
     
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    I'm getting lazy, this post is just a copy from MLP. :fingersx:

    Little progress again.
    Put the top blanks to a shooting board again and shaved away.
    (That's not my beer can on the bench! [​IMG])

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    I'm quite happy with the sharpness of both of my favourite planes.
    Here's the shavings I got with little fine tuning.

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    Ok, it could be even thinner, but I don't mind... Look now long shavings I can make with this thickness.[​IMG]

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    Planing was really hypnotic again. I just kept on going, checking the straightness from time to time until I couldn't see any light when I kept the pieces in front of a bright light.

    It was kind of tricky taking this picture holding the both pieces in my hand and the camera in the other hand. [​IMG]
    The seam is much less apparent when the pieces are pressed together, as I mentioned here they're just piled in top of each other.

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    And after I was pleased, I made couple of dry runs with clamps.
    I don't know if it's a good idea to have a weight only on the other end, but I needed to press another blank down a little.

    Ready for gluing.

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    Titebond, clamps and a kettlebell applied. Good night, workshop. [​IMG]
    (There's a piece of plastic wrapping under the blanks to prevent gluing the blanks and my workbench together.)

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    So, tomorrow we'll see what kind of damage I managed to do this time. [​IMG]
     
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    Hmm... Haven't updated this forum's thread when I updated it at MLP, too difficult to handle two forums at the same time, eh? :scratch:

    Well, I got the top blanks glued together and I'm in the middle of planing the "cliffs" and dips straight.

    Here's the side that needs more work.

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    And the side that is a little better.

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    This is quite early, but I had to get some hint of what it will be like. :fever:

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    There's still a lot of planing to be done before the top is ready.
    And there's also the body blank that needs the same operation. Luckily khaya isn't as hard as maple. :hmm:
     
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    man i love my ryoba but damn you are a beast ripping the boards like that!

    its looking great dude!
     
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    Thanks!
    I have to admit that if I had any other option available, I wouldn't rip the boards like that anymore...

    ...until I start the next project. :D

    And because I was so megalomaniac, that I thought I would resaw both of the blanks, I didn't split the blank exactly at the center.
    Now I'm taking the punishment as I've been planing for ages and the task still continues.
    I'm working really slowly, because I seem to tear big chunks of wood if I try to take thicker shavings.

    Another picture that looks like the pictures in last updates.
    Maybe a little better, one side quite ready.

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    Gluing highly figured top was one of the thing on my "worry list" when starting this build.
    I was sure that I would mess up the seam and get weird looking patterns, but look what I have on the other side of the blank. :D

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    The lines of the rings match perfectly! :fever:
    (Though I'm not sure if this is any use, because this side might not be used. :hmm: ...but the picture is good for boasting. :D)
     
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    I like this build!!
     
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    Thanks, Grease! :)
    I just wish I'd make some decent progress, this kind of updates are bit dull. ;)
     
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    That's really awesome. It's an iron man build!
     
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    Thanks!
    I'll try to be more productive next week, this week was quite busy and I really didn't have time to concentrate building.

    As for today I've been having my little goodbye ritual for one of my guitar heroes. (Obviously the picture is framed, I don't get wasted in my workshop. :cool:)

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    So long, Jeff. And thanks for the music. :hbang:
     
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    Slayer...booze? I NEED!
     
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    Reign In Blood Red... That's too cool!
     
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    Subscribed to this one for sure. Wow... a 9½" radius!? That's super round. I don't think I've ever played anything below 16.
     
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    And I've never played anything but 12".

    I don't think I've ever listened to any Slayer. I'm off to check them out.

    Keep on trucking, Poro. The fun parts are just up ahead.
     
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    This is inspirational! Great work!
     
  19. poro78

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    Well, he likes the radiuses on Strats.
    And it's not 7,25", so we're not talking about super round :D

    Yup, I'll keep on trucking. Slow and steady gets you ready.
    Really waiting for those fun parts, I've had enough of those PITA parts. :D

    And Slayer. The best thrash metal band ever. :metal:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0z2RyZHQe8"]Slayer - Raining Blood [War at the Warfield : DVD] (HQ) - YouTube[/ame]

    Thanks!
    Though I think you're bonkers (or a sadist) if this inspires you! :lol::lol::lol:
     
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    May I ask a stupid question?

    You build everything in your apartment, right?
    Is it fun for you to do all that work before you can actually go ahead?
    You could order your wood cut and thicknessed to size ... so what's the point?
     

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