What Type Of Wood Does This Guitar Has?

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  1. seckin

    seckin New Member

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    Hello all,

    I am not a luthier I hope I am not bugging you but I need to identify the wood of this T type guitar. It sounds like a tele but slightly different. I really love it's sound and I want to buy a similar guitar so when I am buying online I can be sure that I am buying the right wood type. The front looks like a flamed maple and the back is mahagony but it doesn't sound like a Les Paul at all. Here are the photos, I hope you can help me:

    https://ibb.co/mNFQ5o
    https://ibb.co/hhAsko
     
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  2. PermissionToLand

    PermissionToLand New Member

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    Seems right to me. But there are a bunch of differences between that and a LP, making a far bigger impact on tone than wood type (if you even believe in tonewood, I do not).
     
  3. Chris Pile

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    If you don't believe in tonewood, why are you even here?
     
  4. PermissionToLand

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    What kind of question is that? "Tonewood" is the only reason to give a shit about guitars, period? We're not talking about an acoustic guitar, btw.
     
  5. Chris Pile

    Chris Pile Member

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    No kidding. I've been reading and writing English longer than you've been alive, and I could hear the sounds the OP posted.

    Electric guitars are acoustic guitars first. Don't believe it? Mic up a Les Paul and a Tele.... play them unplugged and record their sounds. The LP is dark and fat. The Tele is bright and sharp.
     
  6. Murkar

    Murkar Well-Known Member

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    Hi there -

    That is mahogany with a curly maple top for sure, no questions asked. Pic is a bit too dark/blurry to make out what the thru-neck is.

    With regards to this however:

    "The front looks like a flamed maple and the back is mahagony but it doesn't sound like a Les Paul at all."

    And this:

    "I really love it's sound and I want to buy a similar guitar so when I am buying online I can be sure that I am buying the right wood type."

    That it doesn't sound like a Les Paul is no surprise because that's clearly not a Les Paul. The unique sound profile of a telecaster vs. other guitars like a Les Paul or a Stratocaster is due primarily to the pickups, NOT the tonewood. If you buy a guitar online without having ever played it based only on the type of wood (rather than the right pickups and wiring) I can guarantee you will be disappointed when it does not sound like the guitar pictured above.

    Go to a shop and test out some guitars before buying so you know what kind of sound you are getting.

    EDIT: Here's a good video for you :)

     
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  7. PermissionToLand

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    LOL, you don't know anything about me, kid. Anyone who claims "I'm way older than you" on the internet is most likely a tween.

    Are you an acoustical engineer? Because if not, it doesn't matter how long you've been building guitars or [writing English?], you have no expertise on this subject.

    Electric guitars are NOT "acoustic guitars first", what a laughably ignorant claim. Solidbody electric guitars work wholly different from acoustics. Acoustics project the soundwaves from the body, AKA compression waves that you can audibly hear. Electrics just have magnetic pickups that pick up their sound from the magnetic waves created by the transverse waves of the movement of the strings themselves. Pickups do not pick up compression waves because they are not microphones. Now, the waves that reverberate through the bridge are mostly reflected back (because a metal bridge is very dense), and the ones that continue into the body are mostly absorbed (because wood is relatively soft, even Maple cannot compare to a metal bridge). Any supposed tonal effects created by the wood would have to be vibrations that left the strings, went through the bridge, into the wood, back through the bridge and back into the strings, by which point they are statistically insignificant and drowned out by the continued ringing of the strings. And yet even that is not true because a wave traveling through a different medium only changes the wavelength, not the frequency of the wave. Therefore, the sound will be no different having traveled through the body and back. The only thing those different materials changed was the energy (amplitude) of the wave. In layman's terms, that is decay or sustain. Wood does affect this on a solidbody electric, although not to a major degree.

    Simply comparing a LP and a Tele is massively ignorant of the myriad other differences between the two guitars. Besides obviously the pickups, one huge one is the design of the bridge, another is the scale length.

    https://dylantalkstone.com/blogs/dy...-guitar-compression-vs-transverse-sound-waves



    Now, are you done embarrassing yourself with such hubris?
     
  8. Chris Pile

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    Bullshit like you spew is why I seldom visit this forum
     
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  9. GuitarBuilder

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    @PermissionToLand - I'm surprised to see such a response on a luthier forum. Have you built any guitars at all? If so, you would likely not post such comments. Or perhaps this is a troll to ignite yet another "wood does not affect tone" argument? If it's the latter please find another forum to do so.
     
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  10. PermissionToLand

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    Jeez, somebody is easily triggered. If you can't handle your views being challenged whatsoever without getting huffy and taking your ball home, how do you even operate in the real world? Since you cannot seem to form a counter argument, I'll accept your concession. No need to be sore about it.

    You shouldn't be surprised, but unfortunately a lot of people think being an expert in one field makes their opinions valid in other fields, just look at neurosurgeon Ben Carson's hubris despite his utter obliviousness in politics. I guess the Dunning-Kruger Effect is just as true with professionals as it is with the general public. Building guitars does not make you an expert on acoustics just like being a construction worker does not make you an engineering expert.

    What I am stating are just basic facts of how soundwaves and magnetic pickups work. Yes, I have built guitars (although it's irrelevant) and my brother is actually an acoustical engineer (actually relevant) and can corroborate all of this.

    I am speaking specifically about solid body electric guitars, in case you do not have great reading comprehension. All I've done is make a calm, logical argument. If you have any counter points I will be glad to discuss them. But if you are going to hand wave and make juvenile insults, please find another forum on which to do so.
     
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  11. Michael_P

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    well looksy here...a relative n00b to the forum trying to be the alpha over others who have been here much longer...typical trollish junk

    I don't give a flip about you or your supposed family's qualifications...is it blissful??? they say ignorance is bliss, so I'm just wondering how it is with you...

    read this: http://guitarworks.thestrandbergs.com/2014/12/28/the-impact-of-wood-choice-in-an-electric-guitar/

    I trust his analysis, certainly not yours.

    story: got a Jackson RR Custom in '84...turns out the bridge was in the wrong place (wouldn't intonate) and I was a purist and balked at Mike Shannon plugging the hole, repainting, and moving the bridge, so I made them make a new one...funny, they sounded totally different...the original would sing on a note like it had a sustainiac in it...the replacement has NEVER done that...facts: all hardware was pulled from the first and put on the second...so what was different? the woods of course (same species, different pieces...duh)...maybe you'd care to argue it was the shark fin inlays that are the culprit?

    either way, it's obvious to me that woods do make a difference..surely, pickups and such define the majority of it all, but different pieces of wood are without a doubt a factor...END OF DISCUSSION.

    me? been working with wood for the last 32 years, day in and day out.

    to paraphrase Harry Callahan: dry up and blow away like the POS you are

    and really, you are the one who needs to find another forum
     

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