new bass build, some things I've been working on, and neck dive questions

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  1. mistermikev

    mistermikev Member

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    hello,

    first up: rockaudio. I purchased a spalted maple jazz body and just thought I'd give it a review.
    $85 shipped. neck pocket is 2 and 9/16 which is acceptable but won't fit my mighty mite 2 7/16 light. top is amazing so I think I'll buy an ebony warmoth? birdseye?
    pickups fit beautifully (seymour 1/4 lb). 3 piece mahog body. this was supposed to be a 'factory 2nd' but the pics speak for themselves. highly recommended.
    think i might try dying it orange, sanding, dying amber, then true oil? the flame is light and I'd like to bring it out but black dye might be too much. suggestions?
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    craigslist find: 92' fugijen sr 890. dropped the stock actives. dimarzio model p and ultra jazz. wired up a 5 way rotary giving some interesting split combos, bartolini ntbt, pre bypass push/pull. sounds great but too much highs with 5ook pot and no tone control when bypassed. will wiring in a resistor/cap to tame.
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    next up: wired up some fralins for my paul. highly don't recommend cts pots. at least not the ones i bought. $8 ea and massive fail as the shafts broke apart from base putting knobs back on. fixed em but... I usually use dimarzio or bourns - even alpha would be better.
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    lasstly... neck dive on an sg. I put on a roller bridge to add a little weight. Considering buying ebony tuning machine knobs to loose some weight? (grovers). considering magnets or washers in control cavity to balance it out but I hate to make it heavy.
    all thoughts and suggestions welcome.

    recommended lighter tuning machine replacements?
    anywho, would love your thoughts!
     
  2. HEADKNOCKER

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    hey Mister Mike..

    Did you get the Hamer Steve Stevens back into shape?? Headstock repair?

    Nice spalted J Bass body for $85, there's so many different necks the sky is the limit on those.. I googled the finish to give you some eye candy..
    Google-Search-Spalted-Maple-Tru-Oil-Images

    I have a Ibanez Soundgear SR300 that I bought for $100 OTD that's a great bass for the $$.. Pawn Shop Buy.. Not as nice as yours but a great bass with a 5 piece neck & great active pickups.. Killer tones
    Also my neck-thru 87 Charvel 3B bass, peddlers mall $125
    Flat wounds on both my basses..
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    On the SG is the strap button on the back of body/neck placement?
    Putting the button on the horn will give you more leverage, Think Toni Iommi..:metal:
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    On the tuning machines there are so many, Schaller, Grover, Gotoh, Hipshot etc. Good luck with the neck dive problem..

    I must be the only one who post on this forum everyday??
    Maybe I need to get a life or start working on some projects when I heal up a bit better..
    I've got two guitars apart in pieces, project & repair that I need to spend a few days on..
     
  3. mistermikev

    mistermikev Member

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    glad to hear from you headknocker.
    i literally applied my waterslide logo for the hamer this am. Will get my microsol today and start glossing it and post pics soon.

    I could stare at those spalted pics for days. so many guitars so little time. really looking for the 'ultimate' method to bring out a flame. have done the dye black and sand and then dye primary color and that works good... but I hear that tru oil stuff is legendary.

    soundgear... i got this one for $200. buffed the finish to bring it back and it's not my first color choice but looks good. had to router out the accu cast another 3/32 and dropped the action... did a fret level and neck adjustment... this thing plays itself. split the top of the ultra j in series with the bottom of the p and really love it. wasn't sure if I'd like it but should have done more positions with the split!

    iommi - I've considered moving the strap pin but the sg horns are so delicate and I'd love to balance it out w/o modifying the exterior. bought some ebony grover knob replacements and we'll see what that does.

    thanks for the idea though: it may be my last resort.
     
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  4. Adam

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    Hipshot open back tuners with plastic or ebony knobs will be one of the lightest, highest quality tuner you'll find. Sperzels are a bit lighter, but Hipshot is higher quality IMO.
     
  5. Zeegler

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    I can't figure out why some SGs neck dive, but others don't. My SG Standard had a bit of a neck dive problem, but my SGJ14 doesn't dive, and it's definitely lighter than my Standard.
     
  6. mistermikev

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    hello,

    good call adam. I may go that route, I just hate the idea of replacing perfectly good tuners! Looks like they will fit in grover holes but am not 100% sure.
    In my despair I ordered some ebony knob replacements. I saw a thread where a guy with a supreme made this change and it "did it" for him. I guess I'll see what that does and then contemplate the next move depending. Thanks for the thoughts.

    Zeegler: I think there are probably two big reasons. A, those kluson tuners weight less... mine has grovers. B, wood weight can vary.
    add to that: some folks are just looking for reasons to improve their guitars (me) and some might say those folks are just being silly (probably am).
    I grew up playing an sg 90 and it would sit vertical... but I never did anything for years. lost it, got another, now it bothers me after playing mostly strats and teles.
    Theorhetorically (hehe) the overwound/underwound pickups and magnets might make a dif... but I doubt much.
    I think it may also have to do with the player... I play with a 45 degree angle and I think some folks like a 90 - which this guitar almost sits at now that it's got a heavier bridge.

    sorry for the book!
     
  7. mistermikev

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    update: got the replacement pegs... very nice but didn't quite do it. They replaced a lot of weight but it's just not enough - leading me to believe I need to add some weight to the body... tuners alone just aren't going to do it.

    incidentally, I put a bone nut on this thing and I think it's causing all sorts of tuning issues. sticks and pings. I've got bone on other guitars and have had no such prob. I bought a 'compensated' nut... going back to tusk!
     
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    before and after true oil (2 coats)
     
  9. mistermikev

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    finally got this done...
    did an ernie ball 70s preamp in it and had orig used a vero layout I found online because it was small... turns out there were tons of errors in it. eventually did my own layout and bam. works like a charm.
    anywho, it was a lot of fun. the 6 way rotary yields about as many distinct combos one could expect from 2 single coil pickups. really turned out nice.
    anywho, thanks for looking.
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