Finishing options for a caveman

Discussion in 'Glues, Fillers & Painting' started by poro78, Apr 20, 2013.

  1. Purelojik

    Purelojik New Member

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    never tried honestly. i suppose as long as they are dried then it'd work well. when in doubt perhaps spray some shellac as a coat over it to lock in the color or something.

    perhaps someone more knowledgeable can chime in. im just speculating
     
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    Yeah, I did a little research and seems like using dyes and stains with Tru-Oil is ok. :thumb:
     
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    As a fellow caveman, this thread is relevant to my interests!

    I like to tung oil the neck with 0000 steel wool- I just love the feel.

    I have no experience with Tru Oil. So I am eager to see your results.

    I have had luck with wipe-on poly finishes. Even over a stain or Danish Oil. You can just keep building it up and sanding until you get a super smooth, glossy luster.

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    Also, if it's going to a dude in a metal band, it may need additional protection!
     
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    Day after day I'm turning more and more towards Tru-Oil.
    So I think I'll try that one.

    Sorry KTM and Wipe on Poly, better luck next time. ;)
     
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    awesome, i took a small bottle and mixed the tru oil with some mineral spirits and japan drier.

    i think the ratio i used was about 90% tru oil 10% mineral spirits and about 4 drops of japan drier.
     
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    I got a great tip from a close friend who owns one of the local music stores. He also happens to be a wood refinishing nut. He turned me on to a product call Novus Fine Scratch Remover. This is a product that comes in 3 different containers 1, 2 & 3 and is for removing scratches on plastic, but, it turns out that the #2 Red bottle, and only the #2 red bottle, works as an incredible finish on guitars. After you have stained the wood and let it dry, about 3 to 5 coats of this stuff puts on a gloss shine that protects the wood and can be reapplied readily and doesn't require drying time. Just put on and rub with the grain, let dry a few minutes and buff off. The company that makes it is:
    Novus Inc.
    Savage, MN 55378
    Item # PC-20
    NOVUS Plastic Polish
     
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    Hmm, I wonder what ingredients is in that product...
     
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    Here is the first page of the MSDS sheet for the product.
     

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    Thanks.
    Minor chemical term translation problems, does silica have anything to do with silicone?
     
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    What I found searching google:
    Silicon dioxide, also known as silica, is a chemical compound that is an oxide of silicon with the chemical formula SiO2. It has been known since ancient times. Wikipedia
     
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    I tried KTM9 and failed miserably at it. I was told later it was because I didn't put acetone in it so each coat melts in... Don't really care too much though since I am set up to spray lacquer both at work and at home.
     
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    Old thread but a perennial subject.

    Tru-Oil is very tough, what it isn't is hard. Two different things. It will dent easily enough, but won't crack or tear like lacquer or poly.

    You can steam out dents in the traditional way and touch ups just take a couple of wipes of TO to replace the damaged finish.

    My favorite finish. Does wonders for the woods figure.
     
  13. Brian I

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    Weird, I've never used acetone and have never had a problem with the coats melting together. Brushed KTM-9 is my default finish right now... but I think I might go back to french polish exclusively.

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    ^ That's a great looking finish. I'll have to give KTM9 a try.
     
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    How many coats did you use for this finish and did you have to sand between them?

    Thanks,

    Gary
     
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    Most people seem to recommend about 12 coats: I try and get my finishes to a thickness of about .002" (Martin averages .008"), so I only apply 6. Sanding is reserved for leveling the finish.
     
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    How do you buff it with so little finish :shock: I'd never even try that if I measured and saw that little :lol:
     
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    I buff by hand with a rag and liquid compound. It's tedious and I sanded through on a few of my earlier guitars, but I've developed my technique with the brush and haven't sanded through on the last few instruments I've made.

    I still hate sanding and buffing, so the lack of those two operations in French polish is yet another reason I want to abandon KTM 9 and lacquer.
     
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    My 00 has 2 coats of lacquer on the top and 3 everywhere else .
    Thin is in .
     

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