Elysian Guitars - The Thread.

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  1. Adam

    Adam Well-Known Member

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    Been pretty busy despite the lack of thread updates.

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    Just finished the finish on that Ibanez neck, now I'm working on the frets. I replaced the stock plexi Ibanez dot inlays with real mother of pearl, and replaced the stock crappy frets with stainless steel. Fret job is still in progress, but going well. The other neck is getting lacquer finish on the face of the headstock, then TruOil on the back and fretboard (maple board).

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    Did the staining on this one today. Started by staining it blue then sanding it back, finished off by using an airbrush to spray the stain on evenly. There is a slight burst effect that I achieved by just spraying extra stain on the edges, giving it a darker appearance.

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    The granadillo neck is going really well. The body is all the way through finish already, and on to curing before buffing.

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    The lacquer cracked on this one, so I had to go backwards a bit and respray some coats, so it's back to being buffed out. It goes with the Ibanez neck above, and this project is very nearly done now.
     
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    The blue body looks amazing Adam! Noticed the slight burst at first glance.
     
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    DAT BLUE!!!!

    Hey, Adam...I'm going to be doing a faux binding on my prototype build and I was wondering the best way to do that. Should I tape off and seal the "binding" with shellac, then dye the border up to the binding?

    I've got the bevels like you've got on new blue there, and I was thinking of dying the bevels trans-black with a natural top and natural faux binding....just trying to figure out the best way to do it.
     
  4. Adam

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    I use vinyl sealer, seal the entire guitar except where I want stain. Not sure if shellac would do the job, I'd try it on a test piece first. Even with sealer I still wind up having to steel wool dye off the sides, though that's pretty easy really since it's just on the sealer.
     
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    Need to get some white logos cut by my vinyl guy, but these are all moving forward. Also pore filled the blue flamed top build today, and worked some on a few other things.
     
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    Working on a new inline headstock since Agile came out with that one that was so similar to my old one... Thoughts?

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    And on the Espada render:

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    Here's a new project... I had my apprentice sand all the finish off the body today. This body was made by Mai Guitars...

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    I was hopeful that the finish was lacquer, but it isn't. I don't even think it's poly, I'm not sure what it is truthfully. It reminds me of house paint. The thing I noticed is it had no odor when coming off, which isn't typical of poly or lacquer finish. It came off really easy, and there wasn't even a sealer coat under the finish, it was just directly on the wood.

    The body is getting my whitewash finish with black pore fill, Daniel is a big fan of that look. The neck I'll be building is going to have a birdseye maple fretboard and a 3 piece hard maple/soft flamed maple/hard maple neck. I'll also do an ash overlay on the headstock.

    The body is already almost ready for finish again, my apprentice did a great job on it today, but I'm not going to be able to do anything until the Bleachtone I ordered comes in. That's what I use to do my whitewash finish, it makes it so the wood is nearly perfectly white, that way when I pore fill over it you don't see any of the natural pores, you just see my filler. The Bleachtone can even be mixed with the sealer to deepen the white effect. It's not trans white.

    The headstock is going to be the red variant on this image:

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    The red line is my apprentice's idea, and I agree with him that it looks better.

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    Got Chris' body buffed out, it came out pretty damned well considering what I started with. Black worked out great for the headstock decal, it's subtle but awesome looking, especially in bright lights.

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    Got my black chrome parts back, they look fantastic! The black chrome is really really cool looking.
     
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    Been working on the new headstock idea again...

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    I really dig that. If you make that headstock 2 tone and route a step so there's that BM/Skervy design hint along the tuners, I'll bet the SSO kids would go bonkers.
     
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    I don't see it :shrug:

    Made templates for the new headstock.

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    Here it is compared to an Ibanez headstock:

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    The new body refin project is already in white sealer, and pore fill applied:

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    Here's what I'm talkin about...

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    The red lines...flamed maple. The black border would be like a rosewood overlay to get the contrast. Then finish it all out with a Comic Sans logo. Perfection.
     
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    It only works with Comic Sans.
     
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    Nah, I think it'd work with Papyrus too.
     
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    Winter is coming.

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    Also glued up the white body's neck blank today. 3 piece, 2 of them being hard maple, the middle one being wide flamed soft maple.

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    Started finish on this square heel RG550 rosewood neck I've got. This neck is going with that orange RG565 style body I finished a while back, and thus is getting an orange Ibanez logo on it.

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    Started finish on the multiscale 7 headless neck as well.
     
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    Routed the taper into Daniel's neck, as well as the truss rod slot. Also worked on flattening the headstock area. It has a little more to go, but I want to get the shape cut on it before I go any further, too much surface area to sand as it stands now. Still waiting to hear back from Daniel on whether he wants standard or reverse headstock. I'd assume reverse, but that could get me in trouble if I'm wrong :lol:

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    I'm also starting a build for Hal Sinden of Talanas. He's been screwed over by several luthiers in trying to get a proper headless guitar built, and I really hate to see that crap, so I've offered to build him what he needs, at cost, basically to right some wrongs committed by bad luthiers.

    Here's the sketch Hal sent:

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    He sent a couple of others as well, but this being the most recent revision is what I'll base my render on.

    Here's my render, which I just sent off to Hal for approval:

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    I left the bevels and carves off since I'll be doing those by hand, based on the sketch.

    Specs are as follows:

    - maple / wenge 5 piece thru-neck
    - mahogany back
    - quilted maple top
    - ebony fretboard (no markers)
    - black stained satin finish
    - 27” scale
    - 24 frets
    - White side dots
    - 3 way pickup selector (neck – middle – bridge)
    - N-tune onboard tuner / volume pot combo
    - bridge pickup series / parallel mini-switch
    - neck pickup series / parallel mini-switch
    - Bare Knuckle Pickups Juggernaut covered soap bar neck & bridge passive humbuckers
    - Strandberg headless trem unit
    - ABM 7087b headless locking nut piece
    - Straplock stem ports (upper stem placement on back of body, lower stem at the end of upper base horn)

    Here's the hardware Hal has provided thus far:

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    And here is the quilted maple top we'll be using:

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    This was a 4-5A quilt top until I split it open and discovered all those voids, but it will work perfectly for what Hal wants, kind of a distressed overall look. That's why I kept it around instead of throwing it out, planned on eventually finding a use for it.

    Body wings roughed in:

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    Quilted maple top glued up:

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    Flamed maple/wenge neck blank rough profiled and glued up:

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    Awesome! I'm sure he'll be thrilled with your work :D
     
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    Only had an hour and a half or so this morning, but made some good progress on Hal's neck through blank and the new neck for the white RG build:

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    First neck with the new headstock and I feel it just works so well.
     
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    It does look sweet, man. Very metal.
     
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    Got the wings glued on and the top rough cut and thicknessed.

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    Fretboard is slotted and binding glued on.
     
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